RAGE OF CONSENT / sexuality related cultural phenomena

[Maximilian Lhoth]

http://www.femmerotic.com/wordsamps/nonficsamp2.html

What's your opinion?

I must agree with the author of the article. We're being somewhat close to a witch hunt in the western society.

Read before commenting.

Especially disturbing are the cases in which two teenagers with a somewhat small age difference (~3 years or so) are sentenced. I see this as politicians looking for easy advantages over stupid voters who will vote for "good against evil" without thinking too much, which sadly happens in a democracy too much, whatever the subject.

[Mike]

While I don't disagree with your analysis of democracy, the writing you linked to reeks of Critical Theory. The author finds flaws with individual rights now being equal (in this case due to age classifications) and illustrates that the commercialization of sexuality as hypocritical. These problems are then used to attack european sexual morality.

If the author had constructive aims, it would be better to analyze the age of puberty versus the age people become sexually active. That is, the biological versus cultural "child bearing age". Its relationship to high investment parenting (HIP), why entertainment is hypersexualized, why there aren't enough european babies being born and so on.

[Glarundis]

surely there are some points that make sense, but it doesn't mean it's all like that. yes it's true, we need to think the matter thoroughly, but it's more than just "sexuality".

i do agree that ppl with a 3 year difference dating eachother shouldn't be sentenced. but the point isn't even the 3 year difference. is what it means in terms of personality development and such. when do you define a person is not a child anymore, etc etc. also, this is what happens when we're all too much into sex. there's a whole debate if you say yes, and there's a whole debate if you say no. it's weird if you say yes all the time, and it's weird if you say no all the time. there's no time being given to ppl to really grow up, more than just physically.

the whole problem is million times deeper than just this. this is the surface of what happens when our society is the way it is

[Maximilian Lhoth]

the writing you linked to reeks of Critical Theory

Generally "cultural marxists" of nowadays, sadly, tend to be anti-sexual radical feminists or in case of males, "pro-radical-feminists". Queer feminists are a minority. What comes to sexuality related issues, they even resemble the religious conservatives, only with acceptance of LGBT people being an exception.

[Mike]

the writing you linked to reeks of Critical Theory

Generally "cultural marxists" of nowadays, sadly, tend to be anti-sexual radical feminists or in case of males, "pro-radical-feminists". Queer feminists are a minority. What comes to sexuality related issues, they even resemble the religious conservatives, only with acceptance of LGBT people being an exception.

I suppose that depends on your point of view whether that is good or bad. Anyway, this will probably land me in forum or in-game jail if continued, so... good talk.

[Maximilian Lhoth]

the writing you linked to reeks of Critical Theory

Generally "cultural marxists" of nowadays, sadly, tend to be anti-sexual radical feminists or in case of males, "pro-radical-feminists". Queer feminists are a minority. What comes to sexuality related issues, they even resemble the religious conservatives, only with acceptance of LGBT people being an exception.

I suppose that depends on your point of view whether that is good or bad. Anyway, this will probably land me in forum or in-game jail if continued, so... good talk.

Nahs, just choose your words wisely and you'll be fine. There is a little bit of racist in every one of us, in my opinion. I, for example, am a bit suspicious of gypsies or "the roma people of Finland", even though I don't hate them.

Some national socialists seem to think acceptance of LGBT people leads to "white race disappearing because of homosexuality becoming the norm" or such. I think this is foil hat stuff.

In my opinion radical feminism is more likely to make the "white race" disappear (note that I used the term "white race" in a context that does not indicate me being a supporter of racial hatred, which I am not).

Men become afraid of women, and the sexes, men and women, will start to hate each other because of radical feminists turning them against each other. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals and trans people are harmless here. My ex girlfriend, or a girl I dated more than 10 years ago, she agreed with me. When we met she told me she was a feminist. Feminism is a broad term (radical feminism, queer feminism, pop feminism, vulgar feminism, glamour feminism, welfare state feminism etc). I told her about what I dislike about various forms of feminism and she actually agreed and said she agrees with me.

We had a talk with the same woman, 10 years later, quite recently, and she thought the next generations will be horribly misogynic because of the immoral, evil forms of feminism (which we consider vulgar feminism, glamour feminism, pop feminism and radical feminism to be) having such a heavy impact on lives of people today.

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[Glarundis]

Men become afraid of women, and the sexes, men and women, will start to hate each other because of radical feminists turning them against each other.

what?not in a million years.how do you expect that to even remotely happen?ppl can be stupid, but only to a certain degree. we all know there are differences between men and women, but unless they coexist, there's no human race. even the slight hint of this happening being a possibility is imo too farfetched to be taken lightly. it's like saying everyone will start to hate to sleep/eat/drink/do whatever they do that makes them alive

[Maximilian Lhoth]

Men become afraid of women, and the sexes, men and women, will start to hate each other because of radical feminists turning them against each other.

what?not in a million years.how do you expect that to even remotely happen?ppl can be stupid, but only to a certain degree. we all know there are differences between men and women, but unless they coexist, there's no human race. even the slight hint of this happening being a possibility is imo too farfetched to be taken lightly. it's like saying everyone will start to hate to sleep/eat/drink/do whatever they do that makes them alive

The past:
http://www.salon.com/2010/06/27/sex_at_dawn_interview/

The present:
Desperate attempts of monogamy, Andrea Dworkin and MGTOW. Cultural schizophrenia overall, teens being sent to prison for "sexting", almost everyone agreeing the prison terms are disproportionate.

The future:
Human male becomes infertile, in vitro fertilization being the way of making babies. Asexual individuals having a better chance to survive due to STD's leading humans to become also asexual, not only infertile?

[Glarundis]

hey it's true that we can argue about monogamy and how good or bad it is, what are the plus and the cons. (yes, there are pluses ) and it's true that religion does play a part in it, for good things and for bad things. and it's also true that one the other side of the "issue" you have cultural schizophrenia aswell. this is all true. but going from there to assume that in the future we'll be infertile and assexual is wrong. we've had this cultural schizophrenia probably for milleniums already now, the only difference is when it's a bit more hidden or not.
so our ability to reproduce ourselves is also our cause of inevitable doom?nah

about monogamy.
we can argue that it does seem impossible and against nature that we try to live monogamous lives. it may be so. in fact, many times it does seem so. we all know that we just want to ************** **** ****+++++++*****+*+*+*****++++ ******* and ********. but if it didn't matter that much to us, why then do we have concerns when the person we like (note: not the person we're sexually attracted to, as it is VERY different) is sexually attracted/has feelings for someone else?why also, if it doesn't matter much (and i'm aware that in "ancient" civilizations it used to be like that) why do we give so much importance to kids having or not having divorced parents and how it influences their growth?if it didn't matter jack shit, we wouldn't be wasting our time talking about it, because being a couple or not wouldn't mean jack shit. raising a child together wouldn't mean jack shit. etc etc. it's very hard to be on a very concrete ground and be sure of what we're claiming, but we have to atleast consider the fact that it means something to us, even if we were led by our "culture" to think like this?but if that is the case, why then did our "culture" end up being like that?some twisted conspiracy plot along the way?i don't think so heh